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| From: | "David & Jill Stevenson" <djstevo@quicksilver.net.nz> | 
| Date: | Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:20:38 +1200 | 
| In defence of Jim ,and he probably does not need 
it, his determination that your message was ex Australia  perhaps prompted 
his reasonable reaction.  Have you re-considered the possibility that 
just perhaps you were presumptuous yourself  automatically concluding it 
was a Kiwi/Australia issue .Being subtly and politely unstated maybe it was 
rather a size of market issue . If I was involved in the American market I would 
have to adopt techniques not quite so applicable here- due to market size. You 
will have to agree that the American market is subject to hysteria ,religious 
,political and economic.To accomodate  for 
temporary over- reaction  TA is an imperative as a tool where one must 
compete like against like.       You say that you 
are"  allowed " to earn a comfortable living from trading - Is that 
governing factor  of a religious nature ? If so, I 
therefore remain bemused when noting your statement that you earn 
"very good money " from that activity when you statedly regard that 
injunction as ,dare I say it , a conveniently and subjectively exercised 
tolerance. A strange injunction indeed !       I note that certain 
UK Banks are now bending over backwards ,complying with  specious 
argument , to cater for Muslim investors even purchasing the property 
involved for that customer because they have religious  aversion 
to the word , interest .A rose by any other name is still the same -no 
matter what contortions  are used.These  tactics are rather akin to 
the behaviour of cheap and conniving politicians. . Capital represents savings and foregone  
indulgence , a noble example of self denial . To classify it`s 
returns  in demeaning and negative fashion as being morally wrong 
is the height of hypocrisy . Sheer pragmatism is the word I would use 
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Best of luck !                                                               
David S. | 
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