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Re: RE: [sharechat] Property Vs Shares


From: "Neil Moros" <morosnz8@ihug.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 21:04:16 +1200


Chris
 
I agree, property tax does no one any good except those receiving it.   From mail I have seen a number are confusing the property tax with Capital gains tax.   Correct me if I am wrong but as I understand it they are two separate beasts that both need to be slain. 
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Sent: Sunday, 24 June 2001 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: RE: [sharechat] Property Vs Shares

MY REINZ statistics show NZ median house sale prices of $162,000 for January 1998 and $178,000 for April ’01 (I don’t have May’s figure), which I would say more accurately reflect house prices than David Mitchell’s figures (in spite of his commendably literate submission). More to the point, returns since 1989 based on REINZ figures give a 3.4% annual increase, and 12-month rolling average increases declining at 0.1%/month. At 1.1% in April, if this continues they’ll flatline this time next year.

I anticipated this in 1995, got completely out of property and managed a 13% pa return over a diverse portfolio. This was possible because rents are increasing an even lower rate than property values - the demand isn't there. I expected the baby-boom phenomenon (of large numbers of retirees stopping investing and reducing consumption, and drawing down on investments so causing a long-term bear market) to occur from about 2010. But recent market movements lead me to believe that the process has started and a market recovery won’t occur for many years.

Look between the lines of this taxation report. Taxing property? A horrifying thought. How much more reasonable an increase in GST and reduction in personal income tax seems! Not to mention regressive, poverty-enhancing, rich-enriching, society-warping, or infrastructure-damaging. Roger Douglas never mentioned that either but still it happened. The twisted self-serving logic of the new right that says less tax means more prosperity hasn’t yet been exorcised despite evidence to the contrary. This review continues the destructive Douglas theme, and his Trojan Horses in the Labour Party can’t wait to implement the less controversial aspects of it. This country's social statistics will steadily sink to mid-third-world status and its social divisions deteriorate, and still Douglasites will see salvation in lower personal and company taxes.

Chris Slater

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